All
Just had Dale Welss from BARC on the phone. They are very possibly going to have to cancel the Silverstone meeting on 5th August due to not being able to get hold of enough marshalls or a rescue team to cover the meeting. This is because the meeting falls between the Walter Hayes meeting and the GP Masters, and the marshalls understandably would like to have some outside life!
There is the possibility of rescheduling the races at Snetterton on 8th October 2006, and Dale will probably decide on this on Monday 24th July.
Please let me know if you would like to reschedule or would not mind if the races were cancelled
Cheers
Trevor
I mind if the races are cancelled!!
It will be a real disappointment if Silverstone is cancelled. It's our (Paul Taylor's & mine) local circuit and we are planning to "host" family & friends to make a real day of it, but I don't expect that will sway the decision.
I'd vote for postponement rather than cancellation (it would only be my fourth race so I am still keen to get out there).
As we've gone for the fewer but longer races this year, it would be a shame to miss such a significant race. If we can't do Silverstone then I vote for another sprint & enduro combo.
Ben
We will definitely need something to replace it or else there will only be one more race in the championship (does that make Sparrow champion already? :roll: ).
Seeing as our biggest grid in recent years (excluding the 24hrs) was at Silverstone last year (27 cars) it would be foolish not to race there at some point, as judging from what people have been saying it looks as though we could have had another big turnout. We had entered all 3 of our cars if you want to know.
Postpone rather than cancel - another option could be to see if there's room at the season-end truck meeting at Donington? That was always good fun.
Quote from: "Trevor Williams"
There is the possibility of rescheduling the races at Snetterton on 8th October 2006, and Dale will probably decide on this on Monday 24th July.
Now that would certainly be welcomed by all of us at Snet, it would be great to see you all back again in October - hope it can be sorted and agreed by Dale. :D
Terry
I have just spoken with Dale at BARC to see what the possibilities of getting on their 30th September race at Silverstone or increasing our race possibilities at Mallory were
Unfortunately, the Silverstone date is full and there is not enough time at Mallory.
So it is Snetterton in October or nothing.
At the moment it is 50/50 for either option
More later
Trevor
I vote Snetterton then! (Yes I know it doesn't count for much!)
C x
we must race somewhere or else the championship is pointless and practically settled. Snet is great for the 24hr but in a sprint race it would get spread out by lap 1. Silverstone would definately be the biggest grid (29 cars last year) it amazing that the barc can't make it happen. if it is cancelled is there really nothing else we can fit in with? I remember racing in november before when we had 11 rounds a year. This is frustrating because someone takes enough of our money, all we want to do is race a 2cv!
I have to say I'm not happy, I have had to cut my holiday short because of Silverstone only to find out that we are now not going. Not just that but 2 weeks before - I think some one is taking the p1ss.
It always seems to me that we get the shitty end of the stick when it comes to BARC decissions, and its not the first time, is our money not as good as anyone elses?
You also have to think about the results of missing our most popular race, do we think it is likely that we'll get 27 cars at Snett in Ocober? I think not. How will this affect us at the end of the year when they look at our average grid number? doesn't look good does it. Will we have a championship next year? None of this is our fault, is there going to be cheap entries to entice people out that late in the year - probably not, its only 2cvs
Someone write to Dale before I get hold of him
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I vote for a move to 8 October because I can make that date!
Hoo-bloody-rah!
A date that doesn't clash with work, pre-planned fan=mily events & work!
Silverstone fell in the middle of a necessary month's wine tasting, so I was never going to do it.
But I've got the 8th October booked for racing - I was going to go to Castle Coombe & play with the FF2000, but as some t*sser nudge me into a tyre wall at Lydden bending the chassis around my svelte frame, it's unlikely to happen.
Don't suppose we could have another 24 hour race, could we?
Having spoken with dale, no, there is nothing else that we can fit in with.
Reason for potential cancellation is lack of marshalls and rescue unit. Too many race meetings over a three week period, some of them very high profile
It would also help our cause a hell of a lot more if there were more than 8 entries for the sprint race and 7 entries for the enduro as listed on the BARC website
As to having to race somewhere, we do not have to. A lot of people have enough of Snetterton in the one race we do there a season, the 24 hour. The championship is not over if the race is cancelled. Just the Enduro cup.
Regards
Trevor
No to repeat snetterton for me trev. I'm not sure they can alter the championship like this without everyone who has entered agreeing to the changes.
What a surprise 8 entries, I bet 3 of those are from one family.
I can tell you now that 3 of them were from one family cos i was coming to help. Believe tjhat Glenn will be out to for both races just not entered.
8 entries is a red herring and they know it. We always pile in the entries at the last minute. My entry form is next to me on my desk, not suprisingly I wont be sending it in.
Ben
My confirmation-of-entry slips arrived in today's post, so I phoned BARC to see if that meant that the race was going ahead at Silverstone. Nicola didn't know yet, but a decision is to be made on Monday.
Ben ,the problem with so many people waiting until AFTER the closing date to enter, is it makes it appear that we have yet another miniscule grid no wonder they are thinking of cancelling our race meeting.
So the cancellation is all down to the 2CV entry then is it Paul, nothing to do with the lack of Marshalls, or the Caterham Academy (I imagine as always there will be plenty of them entered, and annoyed by the cancellation, maybe we should pop across to their Forum?), or no fault on the Classic clubmans, or the Mod Prods.
Maybe, as indicated by Pete above, if the BARC changed it's attitude to 2CV's, you might stand a chance of improving the Grids, but isn't it also a fact that most 2CV's are retained purely for the 24 hour race, take that away and you might as well turn the lights out.
Why wait until after the closing date to enter a race? It costs more.
Surely when the 2006 calendar was drawn up BARC knew they had a busy schedule ?
Shitty end of the stick again. What complete incompetence, was looking forward to Silverstone after missing Anglesey.
Why us?
For what it was worth me a Mad pete was doing both endurace & sprint races.
Don't fancy Snetterton in October though, it was cold enough for the 24hour !!!!!!
Alas, I better go and light that barb-e-que I aquired from Snet 24hour !!!!
ARSE ARSE.
Rant over.
Quote[/Why wait until after the closing date to enter a race? It costs more."
perhaps it's got something to do with people having lives, jobs, families and responsibilities that affect there availability.
Certainly in my case I often don't know until days before whether I may have work on a Saturday.
Incidently, I often race at club level with the BARC (7 races so far this year), when a local region will be responsible for organising the event, not only are these races cheaper than any offered to us with the 2CV, I often don't enter until the Thursday prior to the event - I never get charged a penalty. So late entry penalties deter me from entering at all, another reason why grids a poor perhaps
Fair enough, when circumstances dictate it's fine. But if you intend racing and put off sending off the form until the last minute it doesn't help anybody; us because Trev gets stroppy, BARC because they think no-one's coming, and paying punters because the late entries don't appear in the programme.
It seems that most are against the possible race at Snet, for reasons which I can well understand. However, if it is on, Team Fine print will probably be there.
I forgot to mention that our driver Jez Clark was out in the Max5 at Silverstone today. He came from 24th on the grid (dry practice) to win in the wet.
well done Jez,the wet is a great leveller :D
Yes hollis motorsport have 3 cars entered for silverstone again, Nigel's just paid £90 to join the BARC, seems a bit much that he has to pay that now when he can only enter mallory.
If the calenders busy why did they only just realise it now, surely they've had plenty of time to sort out marshalls. I was speaking to a guy i know who regularly marshalls for silverstone and he said he had just had a letter requesting marshalls for the event but was amazed that they were thinking of cancelling.
I'm quite happy (maybe along with some other 2cv drivers) to marshall for all the other races, and if their drivers could marshall for us, problem solved.
Alternatively why doesn't the BARC use the £700 the hollis family have collectively paid it, to pay the marshalls expenses, buy them beer etc to encourage them to attend this lowly, low class, low profile event.
Oh a yes how many people's shorten holidays start on August 6th or 7th, i know mine does. I'm still not amused, in fact i'm so annoyed i'm going to use one of those stupid yellow faces :evil:
Quote from: "Richard hollis"If the calenders busy why did they only just realise it now, surely they've had plenty of time to sort out marshalls.
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Richard,
We Snett marshals would certainly have been able to assist except for one small factor; we have a 2 day BARC meeting on the 5th/6th August and then the following week another 2/3day BTCC round organised by BARC.
In addition on the 5th Aug BARC are also running a club meeting at Oulton Park, a Sprint at Curborough, on the 5th/6th a Dunlop Festival meeting at Thruxton and a Hillclimb at Harewood on the 6th Aug.
This is without any meetings being organised by other clubs the same weekend - therefore it is not surprising that BARC are finding themselves short of marshals - unfortunately it looks remarkably like a BARC own goal with the 2CV club being the ones left with the short straw! Perhaps BARC themselves should explain why they plan so many events on the same weekend.
Terry
Thanks for explaining that Terry.
I would just like to point out once again that it is not just the 2CV club that has been left with the short straw - or have the Caterhams and Clubman racers been offered alternatives already?