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Classic 2CV Racing Club Ltd Forum => Club Notices => Topic started by: Catherine Noble on December 03, 2005, 16:54:25

Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Catherine Noble on December 03, 2005, 16:54:25
When can minutes and results of the AGM be expected through the post?

Although not a full member myself, I know of others who could not attend the meeting and have limited net resources, they would like to know outcomes of proposals and other matters arising.

Catherine
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Matthew Hollis on December 04, 2005, 21:21:01
AGM decisions are in the next issue of Snails Pace which has just gone to print.  I assume full minutes will be available from the secretary?

Matt
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Catherine Noble on December 04, 2005, 21:56:07
Cheers Matt. Look forward to reading.

Would have thought that the minutes would have to be sent to all Full members at a time determined at said meeting, usual format at AGM's.

Catherine
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: rod stead on December 04, 2005, 23:50:20
I'd be interested in receiving a copy of Snails Pace.

Only been a memeber for a year & not a copy received - presumably this is normal.
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Matthew Hollis on December 05, 2005, 12:32:22
No this is not normal (though you don't seem to be the first one with this problem).  I write Snails Pace and then send it to Paula to be printed.  She prints the copies and posts to the members she has on her list which has been provided by Christine (the club and membership secretary).  I will send an email to Paula to try and ensure you at least get a copy of the latest one - I assume she has not been provided with an up-to-date list? :?
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Simon Leith on December 05, 2005, 13:40:04
Matt

Could I also receive a copy please. I would also like some back issues if possible as I haven't received one since I joined before the 24 hour  race!!

Cheers

Simon
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Derek Coghill on December 05, 2005, 13:46:07
I was talking to Claudia Baines - who drove with us in the 24hr race this year - recently; she'd joined for the year in the hope of getting more information, results and so on but she, also, has had nothing.
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Dick Roberts on December 05, 2005, 14:46:02
What about publishing back issues on the Club's web site?
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Simon Leith on December 05, 2005, 15:45:37
What a good idea!
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Catherine Noble on December 05, 2005, 20:27:20
Yes, good idea, although would need to be for the previous year not the current. Otherwise it would be pointless having associate membership.

You are supposed to recieve all the issues of Snail's Pace for the year you have paid membership for. This means that if you joined in August 2005 you should receive all the issues of Snail's Pace issued since January 2005. Which (if you believe the small print) would mean that as a bi-monthly publication you should receive six copies per year.

On a personal note - think some people need to get better organised ...

Catherine (and her spoon.)
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Richard hollis on December 06, 2005, 19:06:06
well if Matthew writes snails pace and i help him and paula sends it out to the members on the list, then surely the fault lies with the list. This is not the first time people have not recieved snails pace and it makes the club look pretty poor. let hope the list can be rectified, its someone's job to do this after all.
Cheers
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Bob Rice on December 06, 2005, 21:51:03
I also, have never received a copy of Snails Pace, on a bi monthly basis that will be 3 copies not received.

Why not just E Mail it out? that way you would save on the postage costs!
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Paul Robertson on December 07, 2005, 09:16:10
If people had come to the agm they would know the outcome.
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Bob Rice on December 07, 2005, 09:18:56
I was there!
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Matthew Hollis on December 07, 2005, 12:55:44
I have already instructed Paula to make sure copies get to Bob and Simon as you previously requested.  I will also try to make sure that Rod and Claudia get a copy by speaking to her again.  I will reiterate that Paula will only send copies to people she knows she needs to send copies to so if she is not provided with an up-to-date list then she will not know.

Bob - emailing copies will not work as not everybody has email, plus the magazine is not written in a format that allows it to be emailed and still be readable.

Dick - back issue available on the website has been thought about and is possible but like Catherine says cannot be from the current year as deafeats the object of being an associate member.  As I have only done SP for one year that is not a viable option at present but perhaps in the future.  I will speak to you about this when I next see you.

Catherine - in an ideal world, Snails Pace would be a bi-monthly publication (i'm not sure what small print you are referring to but i'll take your word for it).  However, I do SP as a voluntary contribution and sometimes it is not possible to be that precise in the timing.  It also needs to fitted around the races - this year have only had 7 meetings which have not been evenly spread, consequently if a magazine was printed every two months some issues would have lots of pages and some not very much at all.



I took over Snails Pace because I felt it needed improving from it's then current state.  I like to think it has been improved but clearly some people think otherwise :evil:
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Catherine Noble on December 07, 2005, 13:11:20
Snail's Pace content is fine, sorry Matt didn't mean to offend! Have only being on the mailing list for 2 years, so don't have much to go on!!  :oops:

My disgruntlement lies with people not doing what they say they are going to do, such as post copies out to relevent people on lists, then claim it's not their fault and blame other factors.

As an associate member I saw little point in making the jaunt to the AGM this year as I don't get a vote. Although it would have provided an opportunity to hear all said discussion - point taken. However I know of full members who didn't travel to the AGM and are awaiting feedback, these members had work commitments that prevented them from attending. Why have they to wait for Snail's Pace, surely they should have been sent minutes by the secretary as matter of courtesy, shortly after the meeting?

This takes you to the bi-monthly statement, doesn't anyone actually examine their website?! We were all asked to look through it to check for errors or misquotes and so forth!

http://www.2cvracing.org.uk/overview/newsletter.htm

Catherine and her spoon
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Paul Robertson on December 07, 2005, 15:29:36
Well volunteered catherine ,you can be our website accuracy monitor and report all those things that are wrong with it .
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Dick Roberts on December 07, 2005, 16:14:03
Hello

The web page quoted (By Catherine) contains "The 2CV Racing Club has its own newsletter, called 'Snails Pace', published bi-monthly ....
.....Distributed only to Club members, it is full of great articles on the Championship and some of its personalities.
......Become a associated member to receive each copy.
.........Regular features include :-
.............Tech Talk Updates from the technical sub-committee
...................Buy and Sell If you want it or want to get rid of it
............................Trade Adverts Allowing businesses to sponsor an edition
..........Results Page An update of the Championship and Team Championship titles "

This information has been published (and assumed to be the truth) for 2005 when I took over (and before that).

If some people are getting Snail's Pace then the statement is at least partially true.  

What is Catherine suggesting that people should report?
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Catherine Noble on December 07, 2005, 17:36:06
Inaccuracies in webpage content should be reported.

When the site took on it's new format users were asked to give feedback on its content I spent time going through it and emailing Dick on where I thought errors lay. They were also reported on the forum, if my memory serves me correctly.

Sadly, I don't know everything (no matter how much I try and convince myself!) so would obviously miss things that longer standing club members would pick-up on.

Should I keep stirring or is now a good time to go back into hiding  :?

Cath
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Dick Roberts on December 07, 2005, 19:19:41
"Inaccuracies in webpage content should be reported. "

Yes..... but the web page identified talks about 'Snail's Pace and its contents accurately

If some people did not get copies that doesn't affect the description on the web.

I am sorry I don't know what you are talking about.
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Catherine Noble on December 07, 2005, 20:03:55
The web link states that Snail's Pace is issued bimonthly - it's not. The image of the mag could also do with being updated, but that's a minor detail!

(Content of Pace is lacking, which really isn't anyones fault, other than the members of the club for not trying to write a paragraph or two; myself included. Much thanks should be given to Hollis boys for writing good articles given time constraints and lack of input from other people.)

The problem isn't with the content of the web pages, but with people not being sent information by post when they should be.
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Matthew Hollis on December 08, 2005, 12:33:36
I'll admit I have never seen that page.  It is quite a bit out of date.  It would probably be better if it read like so:

The 2CV Racing Club has its own newsletter, called 'Snails Pace', published at regular intervals throughout the year.

Distributed only to Club members, it is full of great articles on the Championship and some of its personalities.

Become a associated member to receive each copy.



Features include :-

Detailed race reports from all the latest meetings.

Full results pages, as well as current Championship, Team Championship, Rookie Championship, and Enduro Cup positions.

Latest news and views (including regular contibutions from the Chairman and Club Secretary).

Articles sent in by members of the 2CV Racing Club.

Space for trade adverts or members buying/selling 2CV Racing related items.

Plus much more......




Dick, I'll send you a more up-to-date front cover to put there.

Thanks for pointing that out Catherine :wink:

Matt
Title: just like the old days
Post by: pat collier on December 09, 2005, 10:38:13
what a fantastic string of confused waffle... a multitude of mumbles well meant I am sure, but able to caste comments all asunder

Just like the forum of old

Now when can it start on camshafts again????
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Catherine Noble on December 09, 2005, 11:05:30
Least it got people talking! Thought it started out with a fairly obvious question though, which I still don't thinks been answered.

Forum's been a bit quiet recently ...  maybe I should rattle things more often ... then again maybe I should go back under my pebble.

Incidentally, the 'who's who' link off the main page isn't working currently, although you can access it via other routes.

Catherine and her spoon.
Title: AGM Feedback
Post by: Richard hollis on December 13, 2005, 16:14:28
if any one else is not recieving snail pace, (or knows of someone who is not recieving snail pace but does not have internet access and therefore can not read this), please declare it here or ring matthew or me as we now know why some people may have been missed off and we will endeavour to get the magazine to those people even though it isn't our job.

We both spend a considerable amount of time writing snail pace (matthew more than me) and we do it for the love of 2cv racing. if snail's pace lacks pace then feel free to contribute. Next year will see an improved turnaround time but now at least the improvements we've made mean its an accurate and hopefully enjoyable read.

PS. wreck to racers feature needs photos and details of cars that were brought back from the dead and transformed into racing cars. email me if you have a suitable case.

Richard Hollis 07881 701099 [email protected]
Matthew Hollis 01858 466004 [email protected]
Title: membership
Post by: Nick Roads on December 14, 2005, 06:59:02
On the general subject of membership I joined as an associate member (I think!) in the Autumn but never received an acknowledgement of membership nor a copy of the magazine etc - looks like my cheque was cashed however

as a new entrant for 2006 have to say that the feedback via the website and from other 2cv members for questions has been great so not a problem as such that I have nothing "official" for my membership. It has been good value and will become a full member in 2006 but thought you might appreciate the feedback