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#1
General Discussion / Re: Citroen C1
October 20, 2016, 09:39:14
Quote from: indigorallye on October 19, 2016, 23:01:22
Well, if anyone fancies a drive in a 24, in something other than a 2CV or C1 then let me know.

I loved my first 24hr race and will definitely do another. A good mate of mine runs cars in the Dubai 24hrs and actually won it last year. He offered me a drive, but it's way out of budget. What series/car would it be in
#2
General Discussion / Re: Citroen C1
October 18, 2016, 15:51:44
Quote from: Maisie on October 18, 2016, 15:29:38
Then we want to know why. Why not hire one? And if you want to enter the 2CV 24hr race in something other than a 2CV race then sorry if it sounds harsh, but if it means diluting the 2CV grids and marginalising the people who do actually want to race a 2CV and not be overlooked in the results when the timesheets have C1s taking the top places, then maybe you're not welcome.

lol why do series forums always attract such keyboard warriors. Not being welcome is fine by me, but maybe it's that kind of attitude that has caused your grids for the 24hr races to dwindle. Was it 16 cars at Anglesey and 4 at Spa this year.

C1's if you are kind enough to allow them to race in the 24hr's next year, will probably attract triple the entries of the 602 at the rate it's growing, which will of course help subsidise your racing. The sprint series does well enough, but you need to look at why only a handful of die hards choose to do the endurance events, i bet most of it is down to cost. Spa was my first experience of the 2CV Racing club and everyone was so friendly, helpful and open to all types of racing, i obviously didn't meet yourself.
#3
General Discussion / Re: Citroen C1
October 18, 2016, 15:10:18
Quote from: Maisie on October 18, 2016, 14:49:22
Just to address the "rising costs of 2CV racing bit":

I think my main point is that people enter a 2CV 24 HOUR race to race A 2CV. For 24 HOURS. They don't want to go and buy something modern because it's cheaper, or easier. It's not a 2CV for a start!


I want to do another 24hr race and i'd enter the 2CV race to race a C1.  I wouldn't buy a 2CV to do it in.
#4
General Discussion / Re: Citroen C1
October 18, 2016, 13:34:14
Probably not an ideal first post but........

Firstly you can't look at Mission Motorsport for a gauge on how cheap the C1's are to run. Four of the six cars (that's 2 more than were competing in 602's) weren't even built a week and a half before Spa. It's no wonder than the prep/build on the MM car wasn't quite right, but they knuckled down and got it sorted in the end to compete. Yes one of the C1's did blow an engine early on Friday, but that was because the driver ignored the big red light telling him the car was overheating for three laps, so they had to change an engine. I also spoke to the guys about the costs of building them and the price started at £2400 if you bought a £600 car and £3k is you bought a half decent one to start with. An engine rebuild was about £500 and they are designed to do a lot of mileage for that and not have to be rebuilt after every 24hr race. That makes them a lot cheaper to build and run than a 602 and more reliable too.

We had a hoot racing #32 that we rented from Ash, but we are also seriously talking about building our own cars for next time and a few C1's would work out at a max of 9k. Maisie's logic/argument for C1s not having a place in 2CV racing for financial reasons, don't make sense. I do however understand the reasons for not wanting the C1 class to dilute the 602's, which could change the ethos of the club , but with the price of the classics getting higher all the time and and the same with the price of spares and engine builds, i think it's inevitable.

Anyway, thanks for letting us race with you, we really enjoyed it

Duncan