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As vetrans of a fire in Gerry Marshall's Capri team during the Willhire 24 hrs in the 1980s we are very aware of the fire dangers at refuelling   :(

Accordingly we made sure we had extinguishers at last year's event (although like Derek noticed that many hadn't) we bought Foam-type from a Company called Budget-Fire - great prices, kitemarked, and prompt delivery too - website below.

http://www.budget-fire.co.uk/?gclid=CIXthd_T1pMCFQJ-xgodWmXtUA

6 Litre Foam @ £20 + VAT

Don't leave home without one !

Andy Downes
Manager Team 42
Inworth Racing Extravaganza
(home of 'The Wild Thing')

Will do - Thanks Trevor

Andy

Trevor,

Did you manage to get to the bottom of this ?

I am trying to help an experienced American racer to come and compete in a UK Championship (that requires minimum MSA National B) and I am running into the same issues. This is despite multiple calls and conflicting answers from the MSA Licence Section.

Any help or advice would be most welcome.

Many Thanks

Andy
(2CV - Team 42 Inworth Racing Extravaganza)

contact??
i think people were lucky not to be contacted!!

lucky some of you lot dont do toca or gt3 then, expensive contact there!
i thought some contact just came with close racing, but then a gain i dont prepare cars to do follow my leader! its racing not some sunday ride round the country!!!!

its simple, stop moaning, if you want to race a car in the 24hr ( may be some of you only want to bimble round) next year, enter the races this year or we may not have a wet/dry 24 hr next year!!!!!!

Geoff,

Luck doesn't come in to it - that's precisely why we don't do that kind of Series - but it's obviously good for business. You don't need contact to have good competitive racing.

It may be OK if you pay someone to maintain your car between rounds with a fully equipped workshop, but running it from home alongside a full time job - then serious damage takes time to rectify. We may have considered Anglsey but with the car out of action, no chance.

Nobody's moaning it's actually a healthy discussion about different experiences at Snetterton and general comments about driving standards. Some contact is inevitable (particularly in the conditions at Snetterton) but if it becomes the norm it may dissuade people and undermine the viability of the Championship.

Still what do I know  :lol:

Andy Downes
Inworth Racing Extravaganza

day membership at £15 is too low in my view for that race when set against the overall cost per driver small beer. Maybe its £50 membership for all and you can get back some if you do more than one race

Day Membership was indeed £15 per day - Sun + Mon = £30 !

Andy

An interesting (and slightly worrying) thread, I have been involved in Club Motorsport for over 30 years and I don't think the 2CV situaution is unique.

All one-make Series/Championships go through high and low points and many of the comments here echo the early days (in the 80s) of the Morgan Only Race Series when we had to cajole and persuade sufficient competitors to make a race.

However in recent years Club Motorsport has become much more businesslike with the circuits and organisers looking for more (guaranteed) income, upping entry fees, and setting mandatory minimum grid sizes or asking Series to 'buy' the grid up front and hence carry the financial risk themselves. This means low numbers now creates really uncomfortable pressure.

The 2CV Racing Club is unique in having a one-make 24 Hour Race and it is fabulously supported, it is also a big draw for many (including ourselves) and just plain exciting ! However it comes early in the season putting a huge drain on people and resources - and in one way the highlight of the season has now passed and so there is likely to be a dip in energy and turnout - the point about Anglesey being so soon is well made.

My other observation is that the way the Series is structured (one simple class) limits the likelihood of anyone other than the 'big boys' winning either an individual race or more importantly the Championship and this may deter people from turning out except when they really want to. Is it worth considering a 'standard' or novice class ? might reduce the costs a bit as well.

I hope you do - but if you don't have a sufficient hard-core of regular competitors, put crudely the Series simply cannot survive.

You have a good thing going here - don't give it up lightly and hang in there !

Andy Downes
Inworth Racing Extravaganza